The second I saw that Eddie from TheDeenShow had uploaded a video with Andrew Tate, a certain man many of you are familiar with, I knew there would some colossal level freakouts from certain sides of the internet. It’s no surprise that the loudest among them are the liberal feminist types of Muslim Twitter, who cloak their true intentions and framework in the language of Islam. It’s quite funny from the outset how many of these types never seem to have an issue with abortionists, pederasts, LGBT ‘Muslim’ grifters - yet scream in a rage demanding blood and strictness when it comes to an online figure who was invited to an Islamic broadcast to explain his views on Islam from an outside perspective.
I want to clarify a few things first, that many of you seemed to have forgotten amidst your emotion-fueled tirades. TheDeenShow has always been - for the 20 years its been on - a show about Da’wah. Their main thing is inviting folks to Islam. So already, whatever accusations or former crimes attributed to the guest of said show are irrelevant considering the fact the whole point is to give da’wah to them, and if they are a person of celebrity like Tate, their audience as well. It doesn’t matter that Tate did or was accused of, he brought him on for a specific purpose, and he did a great job as an interviewer.
Andrew Tate isn’t “right wing”. He doesn’t represent conservative politics or values, but this reaction I’m describing is handing me an opportunity to explain something to you all. This isn’t an article sucking up to and defending Tate either. His entire persona is built on extremely haram and probably illegal things, and publicly lives a life that reflects that. I have followed him for many years and have always watched his content for entertainment purposes. He’s a very funny and interesting man and entertaining to watch, regardless of the fact he and I have such contrasting lifestyle choices. If you don’t think there’s value in that or that I’m somehow committing major sins by liking his and other’s content, I think you’re full of it. If you truly were these puritans that only ever liked and listened to Islamically-aligned people, you’d be in burkas hiding in a cave right now with a commune of off the grid villagers in Central Asia. And I honestly wish you all make that decision.
There’s also some schizos among you who think that there’s figures in the shadows BEHIND THE SCENES working with sophisticated INTERNET ALGORITHMS to push “misogynist content” on young men. This has to be the worst conspiracy theory I’ve heard, and I believe in many. Ever since 2016, it has been custom for those on the dissident right online and it’s entire web of interrelated networks to be banned, censored, cancelled, you name it. Andrew Tate has been banned from Twitter 10+ times and counting. Unlike your sources from university academics, politicians, and the rest of your DC/NYT/Washington Post circles that get constant funding and promotions from their friends in SiliZOG Valley, the growth of our work is almost entirely organic. So no, no one believes your birth-control-hormone fueled theories about a secret cabal of right wing Christian men pushing SEXIST EXTREMISM on young Muslims. We have always generally aligned ourselves with conservative and traditional values because many of them come from the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH). Not a single one of us was “radicalized” into becoming “misogynists”, it was you who were mentally poisoned and brainwashed so far left you lost the plot and now view us as these dangerous fascists that haunt you in your dreams. I am a normal male from 50 years ago. Everything I talk about can be cited in the Quran and Hadith, who the hell are you? Where does your line of thinking come from, exactly?
With my near-autistic focus on the internet lore around this since my teens, let me explain in very simple terms how Andrew Tate even found himself on an Islamic podcast, and why I don’t think he’s “grifting”. It’s quite wild reading that sentence, right? It actually isn’t if you knew the guy. And this is public info he’s went over before.
Tate is American, but grew up in Luton, England. Luton has been 30% Muslim since at least 2011. His kickboxing coach was a Bosnian Muslim. He had Muslim friends in the ghettos he grew up in. This isn’t a guy who suddenly found out about Islam and is now raving about polygamy because it suits him, he’s been familiar with guys like us for most of his life (He’s also absurdly rich with 20 supercars. He doesn’t want or need your money to ‘grift’). Yeah, he gets some things wrong in his content. He’s a hardcore dude. Tate, sometime in 2016, becomes associated with the “manosphere” which was an early space of bloggers and authors who talked about getting women all day. Was never really my thing, but it was fun to watch and read. This space was adjacent to conservative/republican politics, which is adjacent to conservative Muslims online. Years later after he built his wealth in very haram and sometimes illegal ways that he’s already been open about, he ends up on a “men’s improvement” podcast (of guys I don’t even like) and a clip gets edited out, goes viral where he talks about his views on Islam, a religion which he apparently really likes when observing as a non-Muslim. No matter who you think Tate is, the clip on its own is sensational because it echoes the kinds of things Muslim men have known their whole lives but couldn’t ever use as arguments to defend their faith - precisely because of the insane liberal ideologies that infected their communities. He explains it in clear and concise terms anyone can understand, based in his own pragmatism and experience. That make him a perfect candidate for Da’wah. Eddie finds this clip, and decides to bring him on. It’s that simple. You don’t need an INTERNET ALGORITHM to make this happen, you defectives.
The reason I have such low tolerance for these arguments about “Muslim men supporting fahisha” and otherwise is because its coming from a group that has already dug their own graves, crying and screaming as Muslims who remain unpoisoned try and drag them out of it. It wasn’t Andrew Tate or Daniel Haqiqatjou that started these degenerate movements which caused first world societies to crumble, and in turn have that debris of decadence fall on us. Feminism is how the gay movement came about, and then in turn the rest of LGBT, now reaching a point where you can get arrested or have your child taken from you if you don’t agree to them being castrated by government decree. So many of you raved in madness as Rittenhouse was acquitted, bemoaning the deaths of a pedophile and abuser he defended himself against. You sat down and accepted 2 years of having society’s guts rearranged for the comfort of middle-aged spinsters and their husbands, the world economy on the verge of shattering as a result. People read and watch guys like Daniel Haqiqatjou, Jordan Peterson, soon enough even me, not because they were brainwashed; but because they were sickened and disgusted by people like you. You do not deserve ‘respect’ or a ‘platform’, not because you’re a woman, but because your ilk already proved with their actions the kind of doom they enjoy passing onto the world.
If you’re shocked and can’t cope with the fact that Muslim men today would rather watch an online pimp and gangster talk about Islam instead of you, you need only look in the mirror to find the culprit. He won’t be the last controversial figure that comes onto Islamic platforms, and the more they come on, the more badly it reflects on freaks like you. Not us.
Fahisha is the Islamic word for lewdness/indecency/sexually deviant behavior.
This is mind-blowing...in a most excellent way! The scourge of neo-liberalism -- standing for nothing -- is what's destroying the West. Everything that's messed up in the world right now should be seen through the prism of this blog and the video clip, including the mainstream terrible takes on Ukraine/Russia. Keep pushing back against the misanthropic and ignorant illiberal Liberals! I was born 'conservative' ideologically and am Jewish. But if I had to choose teams, between a leftist group of my own religion and a conservative/right group of Muslims or Christians... I wouldn't even blink.
I don’t know any of the parties involved here but with ramadan coming up dude you really need to take a break, touch some grass. As a woman I understand the feminists are insane but when you find yourself defending tate of all people, you really should question yourself.
Though you did say you have been following him for a while, ‘even though your lifestyle choices are polar opposites’. Truly don’t understand the fascination, the feminists have their filth and you have yours. If you are trying to guide muslim woman understand that woman aren’t obliged to respect men under all conditions, but it’s a man’s job to protect and guide them. Women are different than men and maybe you should try to understand where they’re coming from to better convey your message. Calling them evil is not a winning move, more flies with honey etc
I understand this is going to come off as very holier than thou but that’s not my intention, and as someone that tries to correct my muslim sisters I just wanted to convey that this behavior from our brother’s side just makes it harder. I do apologize if this is annoying Allah knows I still have a lot of faults too